Evolution and the Gay Gene

Mr Singh posted a comment on my Why Start This Blog? entry. He disagreed with homosexuality within Sikhism and used Charles Darwin’s theory of Evolution to prove his point. He also insinuated that the existence of the gay gene would result in “instant death”. I’ve decided to reply in form of a blog as there’s quite a lot to cover.

Mr Singh, thank you for you comments. I really value your input and welcome your statements which I rather take as questions and assumptions. Each one of us is on a journey for learning, it’s evident that you have much more to learn.


Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

You have stated on your Instagram account that being gay is something genetic. You also say that modern science proves this. Well unfortunately so called ‘modern science’ is delayed as it is only discovering new things which our gurus gave us the knowledge about centuries ago. Here is a solid argument to why being gay is not right and more of a disease:

Charles Darwin’s theory of Evolution by Natural Selection condemns being gay. Variation exists within a population and mutations occur. Mutations happen constantly however only mutations which help a species survive are kept. This has now become a gene. This is then passed on to the next generation by breeding.

By having a so called ‘gay gene’ will completely condemn concrete evidence of Evolution. The ‘gay gene’ cannot survive as it means instant death for a species as it means it will no longer be able to breed and therefore survive, because after all, it’s all about survival.

If there was a so called ‘gay gene’, how would it be passed on as gay people have no offspring so therefor is purely and environmental affect rather than a chemical affect.

I absolutely agree that modern science is only discovering things now which religious scholars have figured out hundreds of years ago. It’d be arrogant of scientists or atheist people who believe in science to dismiss religion as it has brought forth so much of knowledge and understanding. “There can never be a conflict between true science and true religion, because they both describe reality.”I am not a scientist so what I have to say is only based on the numerous studies I’ve been reading coupled with experience of myself and stories of others. I find that there are some logical flaws in your arguments which stem from ignorance of certain facts.

The gay gene does not mean instant death. Humans (gay or not) both live to the age of 70-80, sexuality is irrelevant. I do hope you’re not trying to imply that being gay is a choice as this is completely untrue. Do you think the whole meaning of life for straight humans is to pro-create? If so, you may wish to reconsider this, humans have much more to contribute to society.

Think of infertile people, last year an infertile gene was identified. Now if infertility existed many years ago and still does today, that would disprove your argument about genes needing to survive. There definitely isn’t an “instant death” of infertile humans as you suggest.

Regarding the gay gene, this actually isn’t agreed upon by all scientists, like evolution, it’s a theory. But so far, it’s the best we’ve got and seems more and more likely based on many research projects. However, what scientists and psychologists do agree on, is that being homosexual is natural and not changeable. Suppressing it (as you suggest) doesn’t work but leads to depression and a dysfunctional human being (and we all know that dysfunctional humans will not contribute optimal to society). Just wikipedia “Conversion therapy”.

Back to the gay gene. As far as I understand, this isn’t passed on. Otherwise we’d be seeing generations of gays one after another. My parents are straight and so are their parents. Gay people are born to anyone.

I know of a lesbian partaking in IVF with a gay man and they produced a straight son. The gay gene evidently isn’t passed on.

The left handed gene was only identified last month by the University of Oxford, I think you know where I’m going with this, left handed humans do not produce only left handed offspring!

In addition I would like to bring this back to Sikhi, our gurus lived the perfect life style and are our role models. None of the gurus were gay, so why should we be? By saying it is okay to be gay, is going beyond what guru Ji tells us, and therefore implies you are higher than Guru Ji.

The questions which I had originally addressed to you was if everyone was gay, how would the human race survive?

Forgive me if my opinions have offended you, but if I ask for forgiveness on guru jis teachings, then that is my sn. I hope maharaj does kirpa on you and helps you understand that you have misinterpreted guru jis message
Bhul chuk di maaf,

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Dhan guru, Dhan hai Teri Sikhi

I think every human being can have several meanings in life. Several roles. To play one’s part in society. To do good to others. For that, I don’t need to produce. Unicef tells us that there are 132 million orphans in the world, many of whom were abandoned by their parents. In an ideal world, couples would adopt them but I know many straight people  who are unwilling to do so. In fact, this seems to be the vast majority of straight couples. Perhaps one life purpose of some homosexuals is to look after these children? In the UK, 4% of adopted children are taken in by same-sex parents (12.5% in York!) and the trend is growing. Surely, this is beneficial to society given that science is telling us, same-sex parents are just as good.

Perhaps you’re also missing another point about being gay. Nobody on earth thinks that all humans are gay (this is completely absurd and a comment in which you may wish to seriously consider retracting). If this were so, you’d be right, we’d experience a huge drop in population. As far as I’m aware, we are struggling with overpopulation in most places. The UN tells us that in the last 20 years, earth’s population grew by 20%.

Gay people have, are and always will be a minority, just like white peacocks or lions. This doesn’t mean they are entitled to be discredited by people like you, open your eyes and begin treating all as equal.

Back to the point, here is a link to around 20 studies on the percentage of the population that is not straight. It seems to suggest a margin between 1-10%. Although we know that nowadays lesbians and gays have arrangements or medical ways to produce offspring, even if 10% of humans stopped reproducing, would humanity be doomed to extinction?

The Gurus are our role models. And I strive for their model for a committed and monogamous relationship without lust but pure love, don’t you? Now, if you’re saying you can only have it with either one of the two genders, it doesn’t seem to go with the teaching that all humans are equal. Why do all Sikhs have unisex names? Gender isn’t as important as we take it.

It doesn’t make us that different. A woman and a man can be the perfect couple but also can two men or two woman. Because it’s the human that matters. Not the gender or the genitalia.

You have not offended me. I welcome our debate and wish for both of us to be open to ideas and learning so that we both can come to a better understanding of our Guru’s message.

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  • Mr Singh

    Do you wish to take amrith sometime in the future? Do you wish to be married in a Gurdwara Sahib?

    • Gay Sikh

      Hi Mr Singh,

      What do those questions have to do with the blog post above?

  • Mr Singh

    So your website is not about whether you can be a gay sikh? My point is that Sikhi doesn’t hold anything against gay people. If your gay fair play to you, however when you say people can be gay and a sikh, that’s when problems occur. Your thinking is not inline with gurmath, rehat maryada along with a sandesh given by the jathedar of akaal thakt, the highest place of authority on earth for Sikhs, you yourself said in one if your previous blogs that you do not know much about Sikhi, then why would you justify that you can be a gay sikh

    • Gay Sikh


      Please deal with one question at a time. It seems to be that you are unable to grasp the concept of a Gay Sikh even though it’s evident that being gay is completely compatible with Sikhism. If you wish to engage in a constructive debate please address my responses to your initial question. It will be completely pointless if I reply to every point you make only for you to start a new topic. So, please, if you can give me your thoughts regarding evolution, we can close that topic and start another one. This way it’s much more constructive. Thanks.

  • Mr Singh

    Alright then, which questions are you asking me as in the above post I am not sure to which questions are rehtorical and which questions are addresses to myself….

    • Gay Sikh

      No questions are rhetorical

      • Mr Singh

        Hi Gay Sikh and Eqiality

        I understand what you are saying and respect that, but you are labelling me as something I am not. If someone is gay I respect them equally as someon is not gay, I have no problem with them being gay, and yes you are right, the gurus never even spoke about being gay, why? Because it was unheard of, nobody was gay during them times. The jathedar of akaal Thakt, the throne of the almighty, where guru Hargobind sahib Ji once sat, has issued a statement that their is to be no gay wedding ceremony within a gurudwara. If you did get married in a gurdwara, who be in front and who would be behind, which house they move into? Let me say again that I have no problem with gay people, it’s only when my beloved Sikhi becomes involved that problems occur ..

  • equality

    Who is to say that the gurus (who were also human beings) said anything against being gay or it being not natural?This is Mr. Singh’s interpretation that the Gurus believed that it is not natural. Does Mr. Singh even know if there was enough research done on the science of being gay back in the days of the Gurus? Did they even make any comments on this issue? The whole foundation of Sikhism rests on equality, tolerance and embracing nature and being content with what you or others are born with. And also on being open minded and not judging others based on race, color, religion, sexuality, socio-economic status, etc. Because the only thing that matters in being human is your heart.

    I am not religious. I have even become agnostic. But I did grow up learning the basics of the Sikh principles. And one of the biggest things I’ve learned is the emphasis in Sikhism on learning and on gaining knowledge for yourself and to not follow things blindly. Gaining science knowledge is part of that and understanding for yourself why being gay is natural before making comments on what the Gurus said about it. If God does exist and you truly love God, then you would understand that being a man, woman, gay or lesbian – they are all creations of God and you would not deny any of them.

    To the author of this blog: I read your first blog and was really bothered by Mr. Singh’s comment there (because of it’s ignorance and “live in my own box” mentality) which brought me to this one. I am straight and wanted to let you know I admire your courage for publishing these things online. I also want you to know that you don’t need to have anyone’s approval to be a gay or lesbian Sikh because the people who are supposedly making rules about what’s right and what’s wrong are just people. What people say hardly matters.

    • Gay Sikh

      Hi “equality”,

      Thanks for your comment. Yes Mr Singh’s comments are very “out there” but it’s important I address his views in the hope of showing him being a Gay Sikh isn’t wrong. Running this blog requires courage but also immense amount of positivity. When constantly faced with negative comments it’s easy to get affected. However because I believe so passionately about this topic and I want to help others, it becomes easier to deal with.

      Thanks again and I hope you can pass this blog onto your peers!

  • Mr Singh

    Sexuality in the Sikh religion relates to the marriage of a man and woman and the sacredness of their singular physical relationship. It is a means to creating a future of children that can live in elevation and mastery. When speaking of homosexuality and even bisexuality, the implication is that the relationship is based on sex. The Sikh way of life is a system of living for achieving harmony of the mind, body and spirit and living in God consciousness. If you are focusing heavily on the physical aspects of your relationships, then you are already out of balance. Those who have an issue with sexuality preference should be encouraged to direct their mind away from flirting with their own sexuality. Let it go. When ever these thoughts come up, they should direct their mind to meditate on “WaheGuru”. People should be encouraged to develop their capacity as a “God man” rather than a “gay man”. There is no such thing as same sex marriages in the Sikh Gurdwara. RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR ALL Although Sikhism does not find homosexual behaviour acceptable, Sikhism does not “hate” or believe that homosexuals are damned to hell as propagated by some religions. As Sikhs we are taught to have principles (asools). A Sikh does not accept any lifestyle other than the Guru’s Way but also prays everyday for “Sarbat da bhalla” (the prosperity of all humanity). Gurbani tells us that God is without hatred and animosity. We are all the children of God. The Gurdwara is open for all no matter who they are or what they’ve done. God loves us all regardless of our thoughts or actions. ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆ ਸਦਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਦਰਹੁ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਹੈ ਸਭੁ ਦੇਖੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਇਕੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ “The True Guru is the Merciful Giver; He is always compassionate. The True Guru has no hatred within Him; He beholds the One God everywhere.” (Ang 302) BEING BORN HOMOSEXUAL AND NATURALLY INCLINED? Whether homosexual inclinations, tendencies and behaviour are natural or not does not hold any weight when discussing Gurmat (the Guru’s teachings). It is possible that urges, inclinations and desires may be natural to some, but in Gurmat a Sikh is not supposed to act upon or follow on all urges of sexual desire/lust (or any other vice). ਮਨ ਕਾ ਸੁਭਾਉ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ਕਰੈ ॥ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਅਨਭੈ ਰਹੈ ॥੨॥ “(In the world) everyone acts according to the inclinations of the mind. (But the one who remembers and meditates on the Lord’s name doesn’t follow the inclinations of the mind, instead with the blessings of Naam becomes) the image of the Creator Lord and remains in a state free of fear. ||2||” (Ang 1167) Taking the help of Guru’s Shabad, we are supposed to fight the sexual urges. ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥ “The Word of the Guru’s Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||” (Ang 1195) Just because some sexual urge is ‘natural’, it does not mean that it is good to act upon it or follow it. Some people have incest urges and they too are natural to them. Should they follow those urges or subdue such urges through extensive reflection of Gurbani and Naam Abhiyaas (repetition of the Divine-Name). Some are paedophiles and have such horrific urges. Does it mean that the paedophiles are supposed to follow their urges just because they are ‘natural’ to them? Gurbani teaches us that urges, inclinations or desires can be subdued through reading, listening, contemplating and understanding the Guru’s Shabad, keeping company with the Saadh Sangat (company of the Holy), sewa (selfless service) and Naam Simran (devotional remembrance and meditation of the Lord). ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਲੋਭ ਮਦ ਮਤਸਰ ਸਾਧੂ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਖਾਪ ॥ “Sexual desire, anger, greed, pride and envy are destroyed in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.” (Ang 1223) According to one researcher’s view “the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity — including homosexual, bisexual and non reproductive sex — than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept” (Bagemihl: 1999). In accordance to ‘Science Daily’, some research indicates that various forms of same-sex sexual behaviour are found throughout the animal kingdom. Now, for someone to argue or justify human homosexual sexual behaviour with the argument that it is natural because there are also some animals which display the same behaviour is nonsensical. Vaheguru has made animals and humans distinguished and separate. Gurbani (the Guru’s Word) instructs one to overcome animalistic behaviour and live like a human being, whilst self-willed (manmukh) individuals to justify their own habits, inclinations or behaviour seek for role models in the animal kingdom. Guru Arjan Dev Ji states: ਕਰਤੂਤਿ ਪਸੂ ਕੀ ਮਾਨਸ ਜਾਤਿ || “They belong to the human species, but they act like animals.” (Ang 262) Animal behaviour is not the ‘ideal’ behaviour, and neither is ‘all’ human being’s behaviour ‘ideal’ or ‘desirable’. Animals live naked with bare bodies, should humans also do this because it is “natural”? There is also evidence of certain animal species, for example pigs, who practice incest (i.e. have sex with their close relatives). Does this mean incest is “natural” behaviour for humans and that is justifiable? Obviously not. Similarly, there are examples of human beings who exploit others, commit acts of violence, manipulate friendships and so on, however it is apparent that this is not “ideal” behaviour which a human should strive to live. Gurbani teaches us to rise above both animalistic and humanistic “natural” or “instinctive” behaviour and to live the ideal of a God-consciousness through the Grace of the Guru, the Saadh Sangat (the company of the Holy), living the Guru’s Word and meditating upon Naam (God’s Name). SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS? Having premarital relations with the opposite sex is same as having premarital relations with the same sex – they are both unacceptable in the Sikh faith. They both are the result of Kaam (lust) which a GurSikh must be able to control. Guru Sahib prohibits the Sikh from even gazing at another with the intention of romance, lust, or sexual affection: ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਪੇਖੈ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ॥ “With your eyes, do not even gaze (in a lustful manner) upon the beauty of another.” (Sukhmani Sahib, Ang 274) ਦੇਖਿ ਪਰਾਈਆਂ ਚੰਗੀਆਂ ਮਾਵਾਂ ਭੈਣਾਂ ਧੀਆਂ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ “Men should look at the opposite gender as mothers, sisters and daughters, (women should look at the opposite gender as fathers, brothers and sons).” (Bhāī Gurdās: Vār 29/ Paurī 11) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE According to the Sikh Rehit Maryada, the Anand Karaj (Sikh marriage) can only be between a Sikh man and woman only. Sexual relationship can only be between the couple married under the Anand Karaj maryada. Denouncing the practice of same-sex marriages, Jathedar of Akal Takht, issued a directive with the seal of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib that prohibited any Gurdwara in the world to hold such ceremonies. Jathedar Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti described same sex marriages as an ‘anti-Gurmat’ trend that had no place in Sikhism. ਸੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਸਖਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਭਾਣੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਆਪਣੈ ਭਾਣੈ ਜੋ ਚਲੈ ਭਾਈ ਵਿਛੁੜਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਖਾਵੈ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੁਖੁ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਭਾਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ “He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru’s Will. One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished. Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1||” (Ang 601) Guru Sahib gave Sikhs Hukam (Order). Hukam and Rehit (discipline) put boundaries on our behaviour. We all need discipline in life. Some may say why we do you stop people from smoking; you do not believe they are equal to you? But reality is everyone is equal, but as a Gursikhs, we choose a ‘Niraala Panth’ (a Distinct Path). The ‘Niraala panth’ is defined by Rehit and Hukam. Marriage is two souls merging into one. However, even this union, which is not based on Kaam (lust), but love, respect and within Gurmat, even that is also temporary. The true Union is between a person and Akaal – this is permanent. When one achieves that union, everything else is put into perspective and is incomparable. Even if a person is naturally homosexual, as one cannot become one, or a person is heterosexual and full of lust (Kaam) or not, and lives as a true disciple of Guru, all of them should search for this ‘true union’, because without it there is no way to quench their thirst. To obtain this union, one has to forsake all, and live in the discipline of Gurmat Rehit (discipline in accordance to the Guru’s Way), and have a longing for the Darshan, Blessed Vision, of Waheguru. RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS A Sikh of the Guru treats all humanity with dignity and respect. We may not agree with homosexual’s lifestyle, and occasional mannerisms, but we could also on a personal level not agree with the lifestyles of 95% of humanity who love to drink, and others smoke, etc. So we should not be hypocrites and judge some and not others. One should strive to appreciate every human as they are on a humanitarian basis and build upon their Jeevan (spiritually disciplined life). A Sikh should share common positive virtues. If someone sees God inside you then one should direct the other person towards Gurbani. The fact is the Amritdhari lifestyle does not allow of homosexuality, and this is not debatable.

  • Anonymous

    Reading what you have written Mr ‘Singh’ that is not the only thing you are saying. In fact by your way of thinking this is how a marriage for Sikhs should be:

    You should not see a picture of a potential spous as seeing a picture to approve the next step of knowing someone is the first form of lust. From now on you Mr ‘Singh’ should also encourage every amritdhari who is to get married to get married on the grounds of are you the opposite sex and are you amritdhari. This should be all the information required. Nothing about compatibility, height, education etc these are all materialistic points.

    The only other question which I’ve taken from your response Mr ‘Singh’ is that before either person is to get married they should find out if they are fertile and able to conceive.

    If they are unable to then they shoukd be forbidden from ever getting married. They are obviously not complete begins. And there is no reason for them to get married as the sole purpose of marriage is to conceive.

    A married life for a Sikh is one where there is no physical attraction, no attraction at all in fact. But the only time you have intercourse is to conceive. At this time all men should not be at all lustful but be able to have an erection by having NO lustful/sexual feelings. No woman should have intercourse and be enjoying it as she is there soley to become fertilised.

    Yes Mr ‘Singh’ you are correct, this is sikhi. This is exactly what we all should be understanding. Marriage is not about companionship, helping each other grow, living a life together to atrenghten each others sikhi, neither about love. But solely to be a ceremony by which your duty is to conceive.

    Yes Mr ‘Singh’, your reasoning makes sense as a gay couple would not be able to conceive. Which is the same for those 1 in 6 couples who are unable to conceive as well as those who don’t want to have children. They should have been forbidden from being allowed to get married from the very start. I mean how dare they want to get married to someone and not conceive.

    Finally, to follow gurmat, it is only possible for someone who is straight. For someone who only marries the opposite gender to be able to reach enlightenment, because their seva, simran, is more worthy, oposed to one who has fallen in love with someone of the same gender. Perfect sense.

  • Ranjeet Singh


    ThIs blog is the talk at the hospital since Saturday.

    Infact for the first time in 7 years at the hospital i have not had anyone question my faith and say that our faith contradicts itself, we are a faith which practices what has been stated. I have always been very proud being blessed with the opportunity to be a part of the Khalsa. Yet today, it has been different, i have put my head down with disgust and have not been able to understand where we have gone wrong?

    Although i am a heterosexual Singh who is married and has 2 children, i am lost as to what my faith is. I have never really questioned where homosexual people fit into Sikhism, and that may be a mistake for us all. Although we are not affected by the obstacles a homosexual person has to face, we should be aware of the issues and be there to support.

    As a doctor i have had many patients who have approached me with regards to their sexuality. I have always stated that there is nothing wrong with them, and that yes there are issues within society but that they are healthy individuals. I have advised the on LGBT help groups where they could get more guidance. Today at work though i have been questioned on my views, sikhi views and how i practice as a doctor.

    I do my job as an honest being, and i believe that my job is a reflection of who i am, which in turn is a reflection of what sikhi is. By saying homosexuality is a sin, or unnatural is incorrect. To me this is like saying someone who is hermaphrodite is almost a mistake in this life and should be aborted. As i am aware there is no mention of what we do with individuals who do have both genitalia, do we choose which one they follow, and do we say they are not allowed to get married? There are many topics which have not been mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so what do we do when we are faced with these questions?

    From various comments on here, it has been mentioned that the Gurus way of life is the perfect way of life and this is how we should follow it. But non of our Gurus were of any other background apart from asian. All five of the panj pyare were of asian ethnicity, See we could go into all of this and state things such as only those who are only asian can follow sikhi or take amrit.

    The essence of what sikhi is what we should be following and teaching others. If we are teaching equality we should have equality within our way of life to the fullest, if we are saying our religion is one which is open to all, then it should be open to everyone not excluding minorities here and there. If we say our religion is about serving others, we should be serving openly to everyone. If we say we are a religion which is universal, believes in the concept of EK Om Kar we should see everyone and everything is God. And if we truly believe that are religion is about love then we should not be stopping someone from living an open, honest and respectful relationship.

    However if i am missing an important factor such as we do not drink as it impacts on our well being, our health, our ability to focus and control this mind. Which in turn will affect their sikhi or that we do not eat meat, as we each life form is a gift, that we should not kill something for our desire, which is a direct contradiction to loving everyone and everything, – seeing God in all. If there is something where by one has a married relationship with someone of the same gender that would hurt someone, kill someone, stop them from focusing and meditating then please do let me know.

    I apologies for any mistakes.

    Ranjeet Singh


    • Mr Singh

      Vjkk vjkf

      I have taken on board all if your points however I feel as if you are twisting my words. Obvcourse there is more to marriage than sex, it is the beautiful union of two souls on the presence of the almighty lord! And I never intendedto imply that it is just about conceiving, if you thought that I was saying this then perhaps you should look at what I am saying from a different perspective.

      I do not want any arguments with anybody, the soul purpose of commenting on this blog is so that the community understand my views on whether being gay is accepted in Sikhi.

      In regards to what some people have said, there are rehatnamai written which state that the man and woman getting married should be similar, of a similar height, weight, and rehat. So therefore I do believe that it is important to make sure that your future partner is the perfect person. Guru Ji is in control of our life.

      Thoo mera rakha Sabhnee thae tha bhaou kehaa karaa jeeou

      This is just Gurus play and whatever he wants to happen will happen. So if guru wants you to get married to certain individual the that will more than likely happen. Yet when you are about to do something wrong which guru does not want you to do then he will always offer a way out, a way to do the right thing.

      I am truly sorry of I have said anything wrong and may have offended anyone, however if the gurbani has offended you then I am not sorry as gurbani is the words of my guru and is the truth, Bhul chuk do maaf

      Vjkk vjkf

      Ps. If anybody has any questions directly addressed to me I would appreciate it if you said your questions in a formal format eg.

      Q1 …..
      Q2 …..

      Etc as this way u will be able to address all of your questions which you may have, I am sorry if I have not covered everyone’s questions already..

  • Ranjeet Singh

    There is a rehatnama about height and weight?!

    I have never,not once questioned sikhi, as the guru states i feel i have tried my best to follow. However now i am utterly shocked, in fact i feel physically sick by the thought of a code of conduct which states anything of the sort. This must be a mistake, because you cannot possibly be telling me a religion which focus on equality, love and serving would even care of such a thing?

    • Mr Singh

      Bhaji you have misunderstood me once again, they were mere examples, I will find the correct rehatnama for you right now…

  • Mr Singh

    Bhaji I am sorry, but I can’t seem to find it, as soon as I do I will be sure to post it it however in the mean time it does make sense that the married couple should follow a similar rehat, be a similar size as this will cause for less problems writhing their marriage. If your partner was bigger or smaller that you by a significant amount it is known to have caused problems on some cases however on the other hand there are also many other couples that do have no problems at all.. I obvcourse do not know a lot about Sikhi as the knowledge you can have is limitless, however the tiny percentage I have learned of teaches me that one cannot be gay and also be an amritdhari sikh, the same way in which one cannot eat meat, take intoxicants, cut there hair or commit adultery and be a practising amritdhari sikh. I am sure you job more than I do which yet you may have misinterpreted messages and not seen them to their true meaning

  • Angel

    I am following this blog with keen interest as my partner is a Sikh man. I am interested to learn more about this religion and way of life.

    Mr Ranjeet Singh, you seem to be an honest person who is very thoughtful and respectful.

  • Anonymous

    Dear All,

    Firstly, thank you for sharing your views. I think this topic truly deserved to be discussed as it has been sitting in grey area for a while.

    I am practicing Sikh and feel truly blessed and lucky to be a part of this religion which is all about acceptance, equality and seeing God in everyone and everything so that we can ultimately love his creation to such an extent that we once again become a part of Him. This to me is the true path our Guruji have shown to us and biggest gift Waheguru has given us. Everything else is secondary.

    Are people born gay or they chose to be gay should be irrelevant given that our purpose to be given this life is learn from each other, absorb the good qualities and learn from the bad so that we can improve ourselves so that we can ultimately become so pure at the spiritual level that there is no difference between us and the creator. With this in mind, I truly believe that as long as we understand and practice that, being gay or straight would mean nothing and I don’t think anyone has the authority to speak on Guru’s behalf as only He has the ability to guide and judge.

    May God bless us all and show us the true path to Him.